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		<title>By: Rick Beckman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Beckman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-5733&#039; class=&#039;comment_link&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alicia&lt;/a&gt;: I&#039;m personally appalled at how flippantly people &lt;em&gt;view&lt;/em&gt; abortion, let alone how prevalent the choice for it is.

The State can punish you for using corporal punishment to discipline your child, but it doesn&#039;t care whether or not your kill the child if it&#039;s done before he or she becomes a citizen?

That&#039;s jacked up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-5733' class='comment_link' rel="nofollow">Alicia</a>: I’m personally appalled at how flippantly people <em>view</em> abortion, let alone how prevalent the choice for it is.</p>
<p>The State can punish you for using corporal punishment to discipline your child, but it doesn’t care whether or not your kill the child if it’s done before he or she becomes a citizen?</p>
<p>That’s jacked up.</p>
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		<title>By: Alicia</title>
		<link>http://rickbeckman.org/the-abortion-epidemic/#comment-2583</link>
		<dc:creator>Alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Note that no matter what is done, there will always be abortions. It does seem that the numbers could be considerably less.

Abstinence only education is not effective. That does not mean that abstinence shouldn’t be taught. But proper use of birth control should also be taught (most people are going to end up using (or trying to use) birth control at some point in their life.

Giving up a baby for adoption needs to get a more positive spin in the culture. A woman facing the situation needs to see adoption as a positive, good thing to do.

Men (and women) need to better understand that sex is a two way street. It should not take place unless both parties are fully consenting.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I pretty much agree with that whole statement. I think it is fairly clear that I am pro-life. But, even if I was (for some odd reason) pro-choice, I would still be appalled with how flippantly people are making this choice. And I think the emphasis should be placed on the many choices that one (a couple?) must make before the choice of whether or not to abort a child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Note that no matter what is done, there will always be abortions. It does seem that the numbers could be considerably less.</p>
<p>Abstinence only education is not effective. That does not mean that abstinence shouldn’t be taught. But proper use of birth control should also be taught (most people are going to end up using (or trying to use) birth control at some point in their life.</p>
<p>Giving up a baby for adoption needs to get a more positive spin in the culture. A woman facing the situation needs to see adoption as a positive, good thing to do.</p>
<p>Men (and women) need to better understand that sex is a two way street. It should not take place unless both parties are fully consenting.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I pretty much agree with that whole statement. I think it is fairly clear that I am pro-life. But, even if I was (for some odd reason) pro-choice, I would still be appalled with how flippantly people are making this choice. And I think the emphasis should be placed on the many choices that one (a couple?) must make before the choice of whether or not to abort a child.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://rickbeckman.org/the-abortion-epidemic/#comment-2582</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoting Anon:&lt;i&gt;&quot;get off the internet, we dont like your kind here.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
Quoting Jesus:&lt;i&gt;&quot;they will not come to the light for their deeds are evil.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
Just thought I&#039;d say it&#039;s been said before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoting Anon:<i>“get off the internet, we dont like your kind here.“</i><br />
Quoting Jesus:<i>“they will not come to the light for their deeds are evil.“</i><br />
Just thought I’d say it’s been said before.</p>
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		<title>By: kristarella</title>
		<link>http://rickbeckman.org/the-abortion-epidemic/#comment-2581</link>
		<dc:creator>kristarella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Keith. Yeah, I didn&#039;t think a high proportion of rapes resulted in pregnancy. However, I think a lot of women think that the only time they&#039;d have an abortion was if they conceived from being raped, but I think very few of those cases actually get an abortion.

Latest from kristarella: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kristarella.com/2008/08/event-of-the-day-car-crash/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Event of the day: car crash&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Keith. Yeah, I didn’t think a high proportion of rapes resulted in pregnancy. However, I think a lot of women think that the only time they’d have an abortion was if they conceived from being raped, but I think very few of those cases actually get an abortion.</p>
<p>Latest from kristarella: <a href="http://www.kristarella.com/2008/08/event-of-the-day-car-crash/" rel="nofollow">Event of the day: car crash</a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://rickbeckman.org/the-abortion-epidemic/#comment-2580</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kristarella: FYI__The CDC reports that only 4.7% of rapes result in pregnancy.  I realize that doesn&#039;t make the issue of rape any better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kristarella: FYI__The CDC reports that only 4.7% of rapes result in pregnancy.  I realize that doesn’t make the issue of rape any better.</p>
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		<title>By: kristarella</title>
		<link>http://rickbeckman.org/the-abortion-epidemic/#comment-2579</link>
		<dc:creator>kristarella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, guess I got it wrong that Senior meant consenting to the consequences of sex rather than sex itself. Yes, there is a lot of rape that goes on, it&#039;s very sad and one of the reasons I don&#039;t read the news very often. However, I believe that it&#039;s a surprisingly small proportion of people that have abortions after rape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, guess I got it wrong that Senior meant consenting to the consequences of sex rather than sex itself. Yes, there is a lot of rape that goes on, it’s very sad and one of the reasons I don’t read the news very often. However, I believe that it’s a surprisingly small proportion of people that have abortions after rape.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://rickbeckman.org/the-abortion-epidemic/#comment-2578</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senior:
Will I agree that in today&#039;s society, my solution is view as &quot;puritanical,&quot; it&#039;s obviously the Bible approach for starters.

I am not against birth control, either by medication or surgery. I also understand that &quot;accidents&quot; happen to married couples. However, the Center for Disease Control reports that 82% of all abortions are performed on unmarried women. Sounds like a moral problem to me. And of the &quot;accidents,&quot; I&#039;m pretty sure there are lots of couples that would LOVE to adopt a baby, regardless of how it was conceived.

Other stats from the CDC:
-- 47% of women who have abortions had at least one previous abortion
-- On average, women give at least 3 reasons for choosing abortion: 3/4 say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities; about 3/4 say they cannot afford a child; and 1/2 say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner (AGI).

I still say it can be done...obviously lots of people don&#039;t want to try. It&#039;s easier just to &quot;elminate the problem.&quot; In the words of Barack Obama: &quot;We don&#039;t want them &lt;em&gt;punished&lt;/em&gt; with a baby.&quot; (Emphasis mine).

For the record, I believe life begins at conception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senior:<br />
Will I agree that in today’s society, my solution is view as “puritanical,” it’s obviously the Bible approach for starters.</p>
<p>I am not against birth control, either by medication or surgery. I also understand that “accidents” happen to married couples. However, the Center for Disease Control reports that 82% of all abortions are performed on unmarried women. Sounds like a moral problem to me. And of the “accidents,” I’m pretty sure there are lots of couples that would LOVE to adopt a baby, regardless of how it was conceived.</p>
<p>Other stats from the CDC:<br />
– 47% of women who have abortions had at least one previous abortion<br />
– On average, women give at least 3 reasons for choosing abortion: 3/4 say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities; about 3/4 say they cannot afford a child; and 1/2 say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner (AGI).</p>
<p>I still say it can be done…obviously lots of people don’t want to try. It’s easier just to “elminate the problem.” In the words of Barack Obama: “We don’t want them <em>punished</em> with a baby.” (Emphasis mine).</p>
<p>For the record, I believe life begins at conception.</p>
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		<title>By: Senior</title>
		<link>http://rickbeckman.org/the-abortion-epidemic/#comment-2577</link>
		<dc:creator>Senior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith,

Unless I misunderstand something, your solution is that people refrain from sex unless...married?  want children?...well, I&#039;m not clear about what the &quot;what&quot; would be there...

Still, you are asking for a lot of sex to be refrained from (I wonder how many married women have abortions?  Married couples should refrain also?).  So, yes.  It CAN&#039;T be done.

It can be cut back on, and I stated above that abstinence should be taught.  It would help, but it isn&#039;t a solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith,</p>
<p>Unless I misunderstand something, your solution is that people refrain from sex unless…married?  want children?…well, I’m not clear about what the “what” would be there…</p>
<p>Still, you are asking for a lot of sex to be refrained from (I wonder how many married women have abortions?  Married couples should refrain also?).  So, yes.  It CAN’T be done.</p>
<p>It can be cut back on, and I stated above that abstinence should be taught.  It would help, but it isn’t a solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://rickbeckman.org/the-abortion-epidemic/#comment-2576</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senior: Could you please what is unrealistic or simplistic about my &quot;solution?&quot; Are you implying it CAN&#039;T be done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senior: Could you please what is unrealistic or simplistic about my “solution?” Are you implying it CAN’T be done?</p>
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		<title>By: Senior</title>
		<link>http://rickbeckman.org/the-abortion-epidemic/#comment-2575</link>
		<dc:creator>Senior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean that both parties are fully consenting to sex.

There is plenty of sex happening in which one party (usually the woman) does not really want to have sex, but is  subtly (or not so subtly) coerced into it.  Not really rape, but...

We also need to figure out how to raise our children with enough self esteem that they don&#039;t turn to sex (among other things) in an attempt to feel good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean that both parties are fully consenting to sex.</p>
<p>There is plenty of sex happening in which one party (usually the woman) does not really want to have sex, but is  subtly (or not so subtly) coerced into it.  Not really rape, but…</p>
<p>We also need to figure out how to raise our children with enough self esteem that they don’t turn to sex (among other things) in an attempt to feel good.</p>
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